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How To Be An Effective Teacher By Taking Care of Yourself with Lizzie Langston [episode 43]


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As teachers, our personal goal every day is to be an effective teacher that helps students grow and learn. With that in mind, you’re probably thinking we’re going to talk about PD and learning new strategies to keep students engaged, but actually, we’re going in a different direction that will still provide the same results. 

I’m excited about this episode because we’re combining two of my passions: coaching and helping teachers. In today’s episode, I’m sharing how to be an effective teacher by taking care of yourself with special guest Lizzie Langston. 

Lizzie Langston is a Certified Postpartum Life Coach, podcast host of The Postpartum Coach Podcast, and advocate for postpartum mothers, helping postpartum women feel more passionate, playful, and full of purpose. She uses her experience in family studies, human development, communication, and psychology, and her story to help women develop a deeper relationship with their bodies, minds, and well-being.

Another fun fact about Lizzie is she was my first Life Coach after I had my panic attack a few years back. She is a wealth of knowledge, passionate, and has seen first-hand how much I’ve grown from the work I’ve done through coaching. Therefore, Lizzie is sharing a lot of actionable tips and insights that will shift your thinking right away in order to make you a more effective teacher, wife, mom, friend, and person.

We discussed many things throughout this episode, but our biggest topic was how coaching tools can help you become a more effective teacher. By using coaching tools, which include mindfulness, therapy principles, questioning, how the brain works, and the nervous system, they work together to bring more awareness to yourself. Having awareness first is the catalyst for change within your body and mind patterns. With that at the forefront, Lizzie explains how that helps you become an effective teacher.

The most important thing when it comes to helping others is to take care of yourself first. While taking a bubble bath, reading a book for enjoyment, or meeting friends for coffee might work immediately, sometimes more work needs to be done. Through the work of coaching and using the tools necessary to take care of yourself, you’re ultimately making yourself a more effective teacher for you and your students. 


Key points about being an effective teacher by taking care of yourself that we discuss:

  • How the airplane metaphor is the perfect analogy for being an effective teacher when you’ve taken care of yourself first
  • Why Lizzie is declaring this the mental health decade
  • An explanation of how an undisciplined mind can lead to teacher burnout
  • How both the conscious and subconscious get in the way of people not committing to coaching
  • Why emotional safety is the one thing that needs to be brought into all classrooms
  • Lizzie shares a more detailed explanation of her type of coaching and how it can benefit you

Resources mentioned:

Meet Lizzie:

Lizzie Langston is a Certified Postpartum Life Coach, podcast host of The Postpartum Coach Podcast, and advocate for postpartum mothers, helping postpartum women feel more passionate, playful, and full of purpose.

Lizzie uses her experience in family studies, human development, communication, psychology, and her story to facilitate women to develop a deeper relationship with their bodies, minds, and well-being.

Being an effective teacher-related episodes and blog posts:

Connect with Kelsey:

Read the transcript for episode 43, How To Be An Effective Teacher By Taking Care of Yourself with Lizzie Langston:

I’m so glad you’re here and you’re back listening today. Or if you’re here for the first time, welcome. So happy you’re here. As I’m recording this. And as this episode drops, it is almost Halloween, which I’m so excited for. I love Halloween so much. We’re getting all ready. My husband has his 58 Chevy, it’s red, we always decorate it for Halloween, and we decorate it for Christmas. But for Halloween, he has this giant pumpkin I kid you not it is like huge and we have in the back of the truck. And whenever we drive anywhere, it just makes people smile. Like they just love it. Because it’s an old 50s red truck with a giant pumpkin. That’s really not something you see very often. So I love doing that so much fun. And I mean, I know that was random, but I just I love Halloween, I know it can be a bit crazy for teachers. So if you need some more tips, go to episode number 35 after you’re finished listening to this one, we’ve got some activities and inspiration for you there that might make you a little bit more excited for Halloween, we’ve got some fun teaching ideas for you there. So be sure to check that out.

But today, what we’re talking about is what to do to be a more effective teacher. And it might not be what you think I mean, actually, you probably know because you listen to the little teaser, and you saw the title of the podcast. But we’re not talking about like doing more PD, learning the latest teaching strategies, or how you can streamline your planning or anything like that. All of those are wonderful things. And we talk about those in other episodes of the podcast. But what I truly believe is the most important thing to being the most effective teacher you can be is taking care of yourself. And you’ve probably heard this before, but the airplane metaphor, so when you’re on an airplane, and they say that you need to put on your own mask before you put on your own children. And that’s a really hard thing for a lot of us moms, parents in general to think, Well, why would I want to do that I want to take care of my child. But you can’t really take care of other people if you’re not taking care of yourself. And as teachers, we have a stewardship as a teacher over all of these kids in our classroom. Likely we may have other you know, if you’re a mom too like this is Wife Teacher Mommy or dad or a parent, you might have your own children to take care of, you have so much responsibility. And if you are taking on all of this and you’re not taking the time to take care of yourself in a true self care way. You’re not going to be as effective as if you were doing those things. And sometimes it sounds counterproductive. It’s like I have so much to do that I don’t have time to take care of myself. But what we’re talking about today is really shifting that finding those ways for self care and the type of self care we’re talking about is even learning coping tools and strategies that we do in coaching. And as teachers we can be a big part of helping our students with kind of a shift we’re seeing right now in society. So as Lizzie, my guest on the podcast today mentioned, we’re kind of in this mental health decade. So before we’re like really focused on like, fitness like there were gyms suddenly popping up everywhere. I love that you mentioned this on the podcast, and that’s still a thing. Obviously we want to work out we want to do that. But right now, we’re seeing a lot more talk about mental health that was not seen in the past. There’s a movement going on. And as teachers we can be a big part of that. When we learn strategies to help our mental capacity, help us to reach goals, help us to find a better balance in our lives, we can create a legacy with our students with their own children in how we teach how we parent, the strategies, we either explicitly teach our students or we just implicitly teach them by modeling how we handle stress how we handle situations, etc.

So today I have an interview with Lizzie Langston. And as I shared on last week’s episode, she was my first life coach. And my coaching with her was probably the catalyst to my own mental health journey. So if you did not listen to that episode, I share all about it on episode number 42. Definitely check that out. But I’m excited to have her share some of her wisdom with you today, and lots of actionable tips and insights that will shift your thinking right away just from taking the time to listen to this episode. Plus another amazing perspective she shares because I know you’ve heard about coaching, you’ve heard about it from me, you’ve heard about it from Chrissy and some of the members if you’ve been listening to the show. But this is another incredible perspective about what it’s like if you want to be coached to yourself, which is obviously just another step you can take if you feel like it’s for you. So now let’s dive in and get into all the goodness in today’s interview. Oh, but before we do, I wanted to mention that be sure to listen through because at the end, I kind of teased this last week, I really opened myself up to be a little bit vulnerable with you guys again this week, because I asked Lizzie what was it like coaching me from the beginning to the end. And she shared a case study of working with a client and that case study was me super interesting. And she shared some things that are different than I thought she might say. And I found it fascinating. So be sure to listen to this whole interview Lizzie, just has so much wisdom. So let’s get going. Oh, but before we do again, oh my goodness. See, I’m so excited. Can you tell? But I do need to read her intro for you quick. So Lizzie Langston is a certified postpartum life coach, podcast host of the Postpartum Coach Podcast and an advocate for postpartum mothers helping postpartum women feel more passionate, playful and full of purpose. Lizzie uses her experience in family studies, human development, communication, psychology and her story to facilitate women to develop a deeper relationship with their bodies, their minds and their well being. So let’s get to that interview now.

Lizzie, I’m so excited to have you on the show today.

Hello, thanks for having me. This is so fun. Kelsey, I’ve missed you. So this is like extra fun to be able to catch up.

I know it’s been way too long. You and I we were like chatting all the time for so long. And it’s really fun to catch up and chat today. And I’m excited to have you share your knowledge and wisdom with my audience who I just love so much. I feel like I’m bringing together my favorite. Oh, you know, guys, we should all be friends. Apparently we all love and so before we dive in, though, I want our audience to get to know you a little bit. So tell us about yourself, like whatever you’d like your background. And then also why you became a coach and what you do.

Sounds fabulous. I feel like I have to start with my puppies. I just got a dog a puppy. I have a German Shorthaired Pointer named Otto. And he’s brown and he’s three. But then we just got another one. And he’s black and white speckling. And his name is Harvey. So I have two puppies. And then I have three children, ages eight, six, and five. So third grade, first grade kindergarten. Yeah, so I’m a life coach. I got certified after going through really, really bad, like intense postpartum depression and anxiety. I had my kids pretty close together. And I was like ready to just drop everything and be a mom. But like fast forward a few years, and it didn’t really work out that way. What I learned about myself is I wanted to work and be a mom. And coaching was my chosen path. And it was kind of born out of like, necessity because I had tried therapy, I had tried antidepressants. I had tried the local Postpartum Support groups at the hospital. And coaching just seemed to be the thing that it was really where the rubber met the road. And it really got me like out of where I was at emotionally and in my body. And then with my own healing continuing after becoming a life coach, I’ve studied with shamans and therapists and I’ve become trauma certified as a life coach and I’ve just learned so much more about the nervous system and about how healing happens and the way our body stores emotion and it can turn into disease or it can turn into like pain. It’s so crazy and cool and I love it so much so it’s really become a passion along with like a career and I just can’t get enough of it. I just love it.

I love it so much and I love your coaching I love how you mentioned that you’d like continue to like grow and learn as a coach because we want to continue learning and I’ve noticed it too like your coaching you really like honed in on like feeling things in your body and everything and I remember I was so resistant to that while we were working here.

Everyone is, everyone is resistant at first because we we grow up in sort of an egocentric like mind driven society, we definitely value you know, logic and organization and all of these sort of masculine brain focused qualities but we’re making a shift this decade is like the mental health decade, like last decade was the physical fitness decade like all of the gyms became a thing people became regular exercisers 20 years ago, plus, that wasn’t really a thing. But you know, here we have gyms on every corner. And and in home fitness programs. And I feel like this next decade is the mental health revolution. And so I’m really excited to be a part of it. And I think teachers need to be in the in the know, because they’re students and the whole world is like upgrading right now, the mental health game, especially after the pandemic, that’s a whole nother conversation.

Yes, and so many teachers are feeling so burned out right now. And I feel like they need to figure out, like how to navigate everything and the mental health component of it, not just go go go, you know, but like, how do I take care of myself in a true like, not just like, Oh, I’m gonna just take a bubble bath self care, but like, you know, real true self care, and then when they learn that they’re able to pass that on to the next generation. So it’s powerful, because we’re shift.

Yes, I agree. I mean, it’s no secret here, I’m sure on this podcast, but teachers are like, such an important part of how things change in our world. So yes, absolutely.

Yes. So, so you’re a life coach, and you’ve also taught as a homeschool mom, we both started homeschooling before the pandemic, actually we both because you did it in 2019 too, right?

I think yep.

Yeah, so cause I remember, we were both like starting our homeschooling. And then COVID hit and everyone was starting, but we wrote like, a little bit ahead of the game, because we were at least already kind of doing it. But anyways, can you tell us a bit about your teaching experience with homeschooling, and how the coaching tools helped you become a more effective teacher for your children?

Yeah, so by the way, when we say coaching tools, like there’s, there’s so many coaches and unregulated industry, so I’ll just give you like a little bit of context for that. So you guys know, like, what it is that I even teach, but think like, mindfulness, plus, some of the basic therapy principles, plus, literally, when you imagine a coach in your mind, like asking you questions that make you think differently, helping you remember when you’ve done well, and celebrating, helping you examine your thoughts and your thinking patterns and how they’re actually getting in your way sometimes, and creating problems that you thought were outside of you, but really, it’s just a thinking problem. It’s the craziest thing, because we live in our brain, but we never really taught to operate it. And so coaching, the specialty of coaching is just really helping you maximize this amazing machine of a brain. And then my coaching also is very, because I’m a postpartum coach. I’m just very, very body integrated nervous system and formed, you know, somatic, we bring a lot of breathing and stuff. And so when I look at that, and I think, how did that help me become an effective teacher for my babies at home? First and foremost, it healed me. So I actually was when I was in the depths of my depression and anxiety, I couldn’t even be with my kids. Like, we move we sold our home and moved in with my in laws, which was devastating and humiliating. Also humbling, very grateful that they were able, you know, my mother in law specifically was full time stay at home, she was able to really help me with my babies. But coaching, like brought me back to life, and helped me like find myself again, I think motherhood, I just got so deep into having babies like knee deep. And I think I just lost who I was, if I ever even knew it really before probably didn’t, because I had kids pretty young. And anyway, so coaching just really like helped me find myself and that gave me access to creativity, to new levels of patience, and even just direction you know, homeschooling in general, you got to be pretty self directed. It’s not like you have any checking in on you. And I think homes or sorry, coaching just gave me the relationship within myself to be accountable to be kind and compassionate to myself instead of so critical. Because, you know, if you’re so critical to yourself, you can’t hardly like do anything. It just shuts you down. And so I was able to get out of those really destructive patterns that kept me depressive. throughout some of my motherhood. Yeah, I honestly I don’t think I was thinking about this when I was writing the notes to prep for this episode. I was like, I don’t think I would have homeschooled at all. Had I not found coaching I would not have felt capable. I don’t think it would have even been on my radar. It would have been way too much for me, but I could handle that.

That’s incredible how it helped you feel like you were able to do something that you is like polar opposite you were going from like you couldn’t even be around your children to now you are choosing to be around your children more to homeschool them and become their teacher.

Yeah, I remember my husband was really nervous, you know, because yeah, he had seen me make great changes and feel so much better with coaching and but he also was like, we really just went through it, are you sure you want to bring them home? And you know, at that time, it was just my oldest that I was going to be homeschooling instead of having him in kindergarten. But it was like, Yeah, and I felt so grateful and happy that I actually could have the emotional bandwidth to like, deal with him. And we have since found out he’s on the spectrum and has some really special needs. And so it was like, extra amazing that I was even able to do that after depression and anxiety. So coaching, just really it has a special special place in my heart. It’s no secret.

And it really does for me too. I’m so so passionate about and it’s all because of working with you like for that first time. And I shared in the episode that will air before this one that I recorded yesterday. That initial story of how I found you do you remember how was Laura Garn she’s actually homeschool coach, and she commented, because I posted about like, how I was struggling and I was postpartum and everything. And she was like, You need to work with Lizzie. And I was like, Oh, her comment just really stood out to me actually read the full comment on the last episode. So if you guys listening, haven’t heard it yet, be sure to listen to that one too. Amazing, but yeah, so I found you that way, we worked together for like 15 months. And it was completely transformative for me. And so I’m so passionate about it now I’m like, I will never be without coaching in some form. And that’s why I eventually added it to Wife Teacher Mommy club, because I’m so passionate about it. And I plan on starting my own certification next year. So I thought that I have this plan and we’re like doing these things for the rest of this year. And then January, like right at the beginning of January is when I’m starting in gonna be able to focus on that. So I mean, I’ve been mentioning on the podcast, and like, you know, holding myself accountable to that, and like people are gonna make, you’re doing this. So I was so excited. Yay. And it’s all thanks to you. So it really is like a legacy. Like, you know, you are doing this work, and then you’ve affected others, and they’re helping others like now I’m wanting to help teachers, and they’re gonna help their students and it’s just this big beautiful ripple effect. Anyways, that was a total ramble. But because I’m so passionate about it, how do you think coaching can help teachers become more effective with teaching their students?

Yes. Oh, okay. So basically, like, coaching really gets to the foundation of your functioning. Like, as broad as that might sound. And I’ll go into some detail, but like, think about if you had a computer, and it was a nice computer, it was like, medium grade computer. And you took it into and it worked fine. Like it did all the things, it was a little slow sometimes. Sometimes it might like, do things wrong or weird. And you have to go back and fix it. And you’re like, oh, but you know, technology, you write it off to like old technology, like it’s just part of the deal. Then you take it to Apple, you get it upgraded. And then you bring it back home, and you’re using it and you’re just like, Whoa, this is a computer like computers work like this. Like what it’s so flawless. It like gets me it’s doing this, this it’s so much faster. That is essentially that like the new version of yourself that you get to witness and experience and live in on the daily after something like coaching, coaching, yeah, it really gets into the way that you think. The first step in coaching is really just awareness. A lot of people are like, hey, I want to fix this and this and this. And the first thing you got to do, though, is just like, start seeing things in a new way things meaning like your thought patterns and your tendencies and the way that you operate. And I know, Kelsey, and I’ve talked about this, but one thing that’s really, really important that I think many coaches don’t emphasize enough, and this is coming from me where I’m trauma informed. I’ve been you know, I’ve had childhood trauma, I’ve had issues where I’ve had to really work on this. And that is safety, learning how to be kind, and build safety within yourself to yourself and even between you and your coach. And I think if I could pick one thing that I would love to see brought into classrooms, even more like to the next level is just that sense of emotional safety. We obviously have physical safety at school. We’re like safety first. And teaching children how to be emotionally safe with themselves how to recognize when somebody is not being emotionally safe to them, and maybe that’s something you guys already do. And I just like coaching, it’s so broad. There’s such a variety of coaches, there’s such a variety of teachers and what sort of teaching is happening but so basically like you’re it’s just feels like an upgrade, it feels like you’re sharper, you are happier, you’re more kind to yourself, you’re more attuned, like your intuition turns on, when you’ve gone through coaching, especially my type of coaching, the coaching I’ve created is very, very body integrated. And you’re really working to connect with your body, listen to your body, receive your intuition, use that on the daily and it becomes second nature, you just, I call it like a wild woman, you’re just like, you just like alive. Just alive again. So good.

I love that. I love how you talked about how it’s like, you know, kind of like the computer. I love that analogy, how it’s like, you know, you’re just becoming more a better version, you’re still you, but you’re just becoming a better, more aware version of what’s going on. And, and I agree that awareness is that first step, because you can’t just overnight, change everything in your life.

Yeah, we can’t see what we can’t see. And that’s why having a coach is so impactful and valuable and will change your life is because she can literally be a mirror and show you things that you could have never seen by yourself. And once you can see the things you can change the things but until you can see them, you can’t change them. We can see something. Yeah. And there’s lots we can do so.

And sometimes it’s things that like, once you do see it, you’re like how did I not see it? But you really can’t use that like for years. For years. Yeah, it’s fascinating.

So fascinating. It’s addicting a little bit, right, actually. Yeah. Like, I’ll never not have a coach like, it’s just like, oh my gosh, there’s nothing better than just that higher level of self progression and self connection. And yes, understanding so cool. It’s amazing.

And I think we kind of addressed this in our last question. But like, we kind of have talked about teachers are feeling a lot of burnout right now. You know, we’ve gone through the pandemic, they went virtual, they came back there were all kinds of crazy things going on. And now we’re kind of things have settled into a normal, but we’re now seeing all these gaps. We’re seeing educational gaps, because of the time spent away different kids getting different support, like sometimes support at home, others did not have support at home. So the educational gaps that were already there have widened. And then there are even like social skills gaps and like mental health, you know, where our kids are needing more support after going through the trauma of this pandemic, and everything. And teachers are kind of getting all these kids thrown in a classroom. And they’re, it’s kind of it’s a lot, especially if they don’t have like coaching tools, the the type you’ve mentioned to help them. So I mean, I guess I don’t know where I’m getting at. But the burnout. Yeah, so that’s what they’re facing. And I really do think that these coaching tools can help them with that. Like, do you have anything to add to that?

Yeah, I think that so I’m gonna liken that burnout to motherhood because I’m not a teacher, I am a coach. Like I said, my mom was a teacher. But motherhood is an area where I have felt burned out. Also with the pandemic. I think a lot of moms and a lot of teachers are moms. So there’s burnout on both end. Yep. And I’ve noticed for me that a lot of the burnout actually comes from like an undisciplined mind, I will call it and what I mean by that is, instead of being present with the task that is before me, I’ll go into overwhelm and I’ll spin out and my brain will go down the rabbit hole is what I call it, where it’s like in the future. So for a teacher, she might be like, Well, I’m not going to you know, teach all the things and then reach my quotas and then the principal’s gonna, like be mad at me and then we won’t get as much funding or I don’t even know right, like, just the little like rabbit hole that our brains go down to in the future is actually what I feel like drains me the most and is the most exhausting? Yeah, it’s like we can do anything if we are present with it. But it’s when we let our brains sort of like jump into the future or go go back into the past and wish it was different or analyze it or want the past more than we want what’s happening right now. I know that’s happened for me. And so I could see that happening, you know, oh, I wish I had last year’s class or I wish the pandemic hadn’t happened, like when I never had that. Right. But that it’s actually when you argue with reality you do, you lose, you lose energy, you lose your presence, you lose your ability to function and get things done. And so anyway, maybe that’s not you know, it’s not like I’m saying, Go get a pedicure and, and get a massage. Do that too. But also, I think there’s just a lot we can do from the inside to decrease burnout. And at the end of the day, even though that’s, that’s one more thing on us, it also gives us power to to change our experience of what we’re going through. And that’s what we need right now.

Yeah, so talked a lot about how this coaching can help teachers and really help anybody so much. But a lot of people they hear about it, like, oh, maybe that sounds great, but you know, there’s something that just stops them from taking the leap in investing in coaching. What do you think are the biggest reasons for that?

Um, I think they’re, the reasons are kind of different for everybody. But I’ve noticed some themes over the last four years that I’ve been, you know, doing, I’ve done over 100, free consults with total strangers. I mean, some of them have, I’ve known from past, but most of them, like 98% of them have been people that just found me on the internet. And moms, and actually a few teachers in there, I bet too, I’m just remembering. But I like I think there’s the conscious reasons and the subconscious reasons. So I think consciously, it’s a lot of times, we’re like, oh, I can’t afford it finances or, you know, will I think ultimately, it’s like, Will I actually make the changes that I want? Can I actually have the life that I’m dreaming of having the one that I feel like is there’s a vision of it inside me, but I don’t know if I can get there. It’s so vulnerable. If you think about that, if you have this deep, deep, deep desire to be this kind of teacher or this kind of mom, or both, or create this kind of nonprofit, or whatever it is that living that’s living inside of you right now, these desires, which I believe our desires come from the divine, they are placed in us, and they’re meant to unfold through us. And so it’s just a matter of time and like, but anyway, coaching is one of those really powerful things that can actually take you from being a person who wants to do this or wants to make this change to actually doing it. And what’s fascinating is, sometimes it gets scary to have it be real, like we get used to having our deep desires live inside of us. And we’re so comfortable being the person that wants to do these things. But then when you come up to coaching, you’re like, oh my gosh, if I hire this coach, I could actually like, not have any more things that get in the way of me doing this. And I think sometimes that scares us a little bit, even though it’s exciting. So then we start saying things like, Oh, well, I can’t afford it, or oh, that’s what I’m saying is like on the subconscious level, I think we’re just like, we get a little scared. On the conscious level. We’re like, oh, I can’t pay for it, or oh, this or Oh, that like I don’t know if I have time or whatever. But ultimately, I think it’s just like, can I am I actually worthy of having this deep desire actually come to pass in my life. And it’s like a worthiness thing. So it’s fascinating.

I do. I think that’s so fascinating, because I think deep down that is what it is. And a lot of times, like, it’s hard to want to even face that stuff. Like you know, you’ve been bearing it down so much. And you know, you don’t want to face it. But at the end of the day, that’s how we improve and get better and heal. Like you’ve said.

Yep, it’s fun. It’s so fun. I love it so much. It’s powerful stuff.

Okay, so I also thought this would be fun. I mentioned on the last episode that we do this. So I want to kind of do a little case study, which is you worked with me on coaching. So, and I shared kind of my story from my perspective, but I thought it’d be a little fun for you to share what it was like working with me and what changes did you see from the beginning to the end of our coaching together?

Okay, this might be weird, but because I wrote down a list, so I have it in front of me, but because coaching is so it impacts literally like down to your cells. I mean, so many different healing modalities do by the way, like yoga can completely transform the way I remember seeing a picture of my yoga guru or teacher, whatever, that certified me and she looked so so different a few years after starting yoga, then like a picture of her before it so so many different healing modalities genuinely just change you from the inside out. But I remember with Kelsey like down to her skin tone like when she got on the calls I felt like after and it was It wasn’t like immediate but I would say like six months to a year and for sure, for sure around like that year mark. I just felt like your health was completely different. And like your face your countenance, I guess, or your demeanor just a lot less. I don’t know you used to have this like, like your voice would sound happy but your face would be like very tense and focused. Yeah. And I don’t know if that’s just because like we would coach in the middle of the day and you were working or what but I feel like after some months of coaching like your whole body loosened up like you talked more with your body or face like you smiled more, your eyebrows weren’t as pinched together. Open. It was so cool.

That’s so interesting.

Your breathing was deeper. Like you’re breathing. You were able to slow down. You can always talk fast still when you want to. But like, I felt like your your general what do you call that candor? Or like your general rhythm of talking was like, more pause deeper breaths, like, a little bit slow down? Not like so slow that it’s weird, but just like more grounded? Yeah, we’re just more grounded.

Yeah, so sure. So interesting. Yeah.

Yeah, that was the physical mostly. And then the mental, emotional, I felt like you enjoyed money more and you worried less about it, you delegated more on your team, and you were able to really, really drastically decrease any like drama or issues, you know, as companies always have, like, you were just able to, like, not get so wrapped up in things but think more clearly. And even like delegate take breaks pause, like you’re, again, that functioning Yeah, was just at a higher level. And I really saw you towards like the year mark shift from, you know, sort of like a messier business owner, because every business owner is messy, essentially it to some degree to like a real CEO, lady. And it was so cool. Because you know, what, like, your organization needed that because the pandemic really required you guys to step up and be like, Okay, are we gonna just like freak out? Or are we going to like, figure out how to serve our people during the craziest time in the last like, decade, or not more than a decade, the 100 year history? Yeah. Yeah. And so I feel so grateful that I got to watch it all. And I feel a little bit emotional, because everybody needed support. And teachers especially needed support during the pandemic. And it’s cool to think that because I was helping you and coaching you, and you were so receptive to that, you were able to really blossom and make Wife Teacher Mommy what it is today and catch the vision of the membership and like, or the club, or whatever you call it, and just figure out how to support people on a deeper level. And I think that stemmed from you supporting yourself at a deeper level.

I would agree with that. I love your analysis. It’s fun to hear from like another perspective, like, the changes that you saw, and, and I find the like, the more visual things you noticed, like I didn’t really notice those myself, but now that you mentioned it and like oh, like I can see that, you know, like, yeah, that totally makes sense. I love it. So with that, like you were able to help me make this huge transformation. Can you tell us a little bit about your coaching program and who you serve, I know you mentioned you a postpartum coach. And that was when you helped me too. So tell us a little bit about that. We have a lot of moms who listen.

Oh my gosh, you guys, can I just say this love postpartum women. And by the way, you can have postpartum specific like related to having babies, trauma stored in your body for years. And so you can be four or five years postpartum and still have postpartum issues that need to need to be resolved. So I help women, basically who I who are having postpartum issues, you typically that’s within the first couple years after having their baby, but I really have had women come to me four or five years later, like this birth trauma is still sitting in my body, I can feel it, you know, it’s affecting me. And so yeah, I help women who are experiencing anxiety and depressive illness, postpartum to any degree also just like paralyzing overwhelm, also just not feeling like themselves not feeling normal. I call it a functional freeze response. But it’s basically like you’re doing it’s kind of like survival mode. And some of us just genuinely never really get out of survival mode, we might be out of the more severe degree of survival mode. Maybe in the first six months postpartum, we were in like a deeper degree of survival mode, but then we go back to work and things are crazy. And we never actually feel like completely ourselves again, since having that baby. And so I help women who identify as that, basically, and birth trauma is also something I’ve experienced, I’ve experienced all of it. And so I, I help them through both my own experience, but mostly also just the process that I’ve created. I have a three step process, calm your body, calm your mind, calm your life. If you’re more depressive, it’s connect with your body, connect with your mind, connect with your life. And then there’s lots of videos that people get access to in my group program. We have group coaching calls, and I also offer private coaching.

I love it and I love your framework, like your three step process. I feel like it just it totally encapsulates it like when you cause I feel like I feel like you came up with that while we were coaching together. If I remember correctly.

Yeah, you were like one of my OGS my originals. Yeah.

I don’t think you had that when we first started. And then when you eventually brought that in, I was like, oh, like, I liked that framework, because I feel like it just explains it. So well. So you did a great job with that.

Thank you. Oh, yeah, you guys know, as teachers, like, it’s important that your students if they’re having like, a big lesson that they’re learning that there’s like little baby milestones along the way to help them feel like they’re grasping it, so that they don’t get overwhelmed or lost or off track. And that’s kind of in my program, I have like a checklist of 10 things that will happen as you are approaching the final, you know, healing capacity towards the end of the program. And so people all along the way, are like, Oh, I’m doing it, like, oh, my gosh, this is happening. Even the negative stuff is supposed to happen too so I have setbacks in there that typically people typically experience to, that they can look for. And so it’s it’s very predictable. It’s very sure people have amazing, incredible results. And I feel really proud of proud of it. Yeah. And the pandemic was, I did a lot of coaching during the pandemic, and was able to kind of create that process, I think, in 2020. So I love it.

Well give us a link. And we will share that in the show notes. Like if you’re listening to this and you’re like, oh, that sounds like what I need. I postpartum trauma, whatnot. Check it out. Lizzie’s incredible.

Yeah, I also have a podcast and Instagram too. So I’ll give you the website in the show notes. It’s just I’ve got a free mini course on my homepage. So if you guys go to It’ll be in the show notes. But yeah, there’s like free resources right there. There’s meditate a meditation for postpartum women and postpartum healing. And then I’m on Instagram at @lizzie.postpartumcoach, and I have the Postpartum Coach Podcast as my podcast. So you can go like save it like right now.

Yeah. Yeah, follow her podcast too it’s incredible. I love your show. Okay, well, thank you so much for being here today, Lizzie. This has been so fun. It’s so enlightening. And such a fun trip down memory lane for me too like, yeah, thank you.

And I just, I just want to say thank you to all the teachers. I just finished parent teacher conferences with my kids, three teachers and actually there’s six total because they each have a classroom helper, which is amazing. And I just want to say thank you. I love you guys. I love teachers, thank you for all you do, no matter whatever capacity that you’re working in right now. Or even if you’re not currently working as a teacher, like I just sending so much love, gratitude and appreciation for you seriously.

Thank you. Yes, thank you, all of you. So appreciate you listening. And stay tuned for next week’s episode.

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